Legend:

• Salvation is Secure
  
  
• You can lose your salvation

Discussion:

• Only those who obey God will be saved.
  
  
  • • "For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." Romans 2:13.
    
    
  • • "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:20.
    
    
  • "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God." Matthew 5:8.
    
    
  • "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." Revelation 22:14.
    
    
  • If your are engaged in sinful acts, you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    Galatians 5:19-21 “The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like.
    I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.”
    Galatians 6:7-8 “Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life”.
    Romans 8:13 “For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live”.
    
    
  • No fruit beared are non christians.
    John 15:2
    2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
    
    
  • Jude 1:12 Twice dead
    These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm--shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted--twice dead
    
    
    
    
  • MArk 4:18-19
    18 And others are the ones on whom seed was sown among the thorns; these are the ones who have heard the word, 19 but the worries of the [d]world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
    
    
    
  • if We don't keep his commandments the truth is no longer in us
    1 John 2:4 How to tell if one is truly with Christ
    Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him
    
    
    
  • Matt 25:14-30
    parable of talents
    29 “For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. 30 Throw out the worthless slave into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    Part Team Workers - Represents Christians. "The Kingdome of heaven will be like this"
    
    Parable of Talents
    Vs. 14 - They are all called "his own servants"
    Vs. 18 - He buried "his lord’s money"
    Vs. 21 - "His Lord" said...
    Vs. 23 - "His Lord" said...
    Vs. 24 - The third servant says "I knew thee"
    Vs. 26 - "His Lord" answered... Also did not say he was not a servant, just a "wicked and slothful" one.
    Vs. 27 - The lord still considered that he would have received "his own" which would have been this servant had he obeyed his Lord.
    If the Lord had intended for us to take this parable to mean that two of the servants belonged to him and one did not, would he have not made it very clear? In fact just the opposite occurs here, he very distinctly indicates in the beginning and throughout that they were all "his" servants. The wicked one did not obey what he knew the lord had wanted him to do, and as a result he did not cease to be called a servant, but he did however lose the servant’s reward. He knew what he was doing and chose to follow his own way instead of what the lord had directed. He therefore gave up his reward and lost his position as a "faithful" servant and became a "wicked and slothful" servant, and therefore obtained the reward due that position. Even though the third servant was still called a servant, his outcome was not the same.
    
    
    
  • Acts 10:34-35
    Opening his mouth, Peter said: “I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, 35but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him
    
    
  • "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21.
    You must obey God "do what is right" to be welcomed by him
    
    

• You must endure or keep your faith until the end
  
  
  • Matt 7:19
    tree bearing fruit
    19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
    
    
    
    Mark 13:13
    13 You will be hated by all because of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved
    Jesus is saying that to be saved you must stand firm (for Him) until you die. Conversely He is therefore saying that those who do not stand firm will not be saved!
    
    
    Must remain, not turn away to be saved
    Mat 24:12 -13
    12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
    13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
    
    
    "You have left your first love," when speaking to the church in Ephesus (Revelation 2:4).
    
    
    The key to how we are saved is in John 3:16:
    “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” [NIV]
    I understand that the word ‘believes’ in the Greek is an on-going verb (this is not so easy to determine because Greek is a contextual language). It really says that unless we keep on believing in Him we will perish and not have everlasting life. We are saved by Grace as long as we keep on believing in Him. Let’s check another Scripture.
    
    
    • "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22.
    • "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Matthew 24:13.
    • "And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God." Luke 9:62.
    
    
    • "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12
    
    "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." Revelation 21:7.
    
    
    • "Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." Jude 1:21.
    "...be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." Revelation 2:10.
    
    
  • JOHN 8: 31
    31. Then said Jesus to those Jews who believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
    
    FACTS :
    Vs. 31 - Why would Jesus put a conditional clause to this directive? If you could never lose your salvation, then there would be no need to issue a condition. Look at the following verses in the book of John that have the same condition placed by Jesus: 8:51, 12:26, 14:15,23, 15:6,7,10,&14.
    Before we get into the misconceptions, I would like to look at another Scripture, Ezekiel 3: 17-21; in verses 17-19 Ezekiel is exhorted to warn the wicked that they will die in their sins if they do not change. But I want to look at verses 20-21;
    20. Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die; because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 21. Nevertheless, if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not , and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.
    What does it mean that "his righteousness shall not be remembered"? I believe the same applies to Christians today. This scripture proves that you can not only get caught up in unrighteousness, but that if you do not turn from those ways, all that righteousness will not be remembered.
    
    
    
  • ROMANS 11: 16 - 22
    16. For if the first fruit be holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
    17. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree,
    18. Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
    19. Thou wilt say, then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
    20. Well, because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear;
    21. For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
    22. Behold, therefore, the goodness and severity of God: on them who fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness; otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
    
    FACTS :
    Vs. 21 - It is clear that the grafted in ones, if not obedient would not be spared
    Vs. 22 - It is clear that this grafting in is conditional "if thou continue", and it is also clear that if you do not continue then you will be "cut off". To try to make this say other than it does is twisting the Scripture to make it fit a doctrinal belief.
    It is very clear cut as the others to this point have been also. Please put aside any teaching from the past and look simply at what the Scriptures indicate. Do not read into them, but simply look at the facts presented in the Scripture alone.
    
    
    
    
  • parable of vine
    Vs. 2 - The branch that beareth not fruit is "taken away", NOTICE where the branch is to start with.... "In me".
    Vs. 6 - The branch that is not producing fruit is cast into the "fire", the entire section is talking about the vine and branches, and it is clear that the branch is "in Christ" and if it does not bear fruit, it will be cast into the fire.
    The facts are clear that the branch was "in him" but did not bear fruit and was therefore cast into the "fire".
    
    
    
  • Hebrews 3:14 “We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first”.
    1 Corinthians 15:2 “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain”.
    Matthew 10:22 “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved”.
    Colossians 1:22-23 “But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation - if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel”.
    Romans 11:22: Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.
    1 Corinthians 9:25-27: Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.
    Colossians 1:21-23: And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
    
    
    
    
  • 1 Corinthians 10: 1 - 12
    10 For I do not want you to be unaware, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea; 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
    3 and all ate the same spiritual food; 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was [a]Christ. 5 Nevertheless, with most of them God was not well-pleased; for they were laid low in the wilderness.
    6 Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved. 7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and stood up to play.”
    8 Nor let us act immorally, as some of them [b]did, and twenty-three thousand fell in one day. 9 Nor let us try the Lord, as some of them [c]did, and were destroyed by the serpents. 10 Nor grumble, as some of them [d]did, and were destroyed by the destroyer.
    11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. 12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed that he does not fall.
    
    
    
    
  • Hebrews 6:9-12
    9 But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that [h]accompany salvation, though we are speaking in this way.
    10 For God is not unjust so as to forget your work and the love which you have shown toward His name, in having ministered and in still ministering to the [i]saints.
    11 And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence [j]so as to realize the full assurance of hope until the end, 12 so that you will not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
    
    
    
    
  • Revelation 3:2-5
    2 Wake up, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die; for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of My God. 3 So remember [b]what you have received and heard; and keep it, and repent.
    Therefore if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come to you
    
    

• Examples of those who have lost their Salvation
  1 Tim 1:18-20 - Paul deals with Hymenaeus and Alexander who shipwrecked their faith and whom he handed over to Satan.”
  18 This command I entrust to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you fight the good fight, 19 keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to [p]their faith.
  20 [q]Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme.
  
  Here is an example where a Christian can wander form the truth and be saved again. Writing to christian "brothers".
  James 5:19-20
  "9 My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins."
  One can stray from truth and another can turn him back. ?Is This backsliding, waht about "saving soul from death" - hell or death state?
  
  • "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" 1 Timothy 4:1
  
  
  
  
  

• You can choose to give up your salvation
  
  
  • You can fall from grace
    Galatians 5:4: You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
    
    
    
    
    "The soul that sinneth, it shall die" (Ezekiel 18:20)
    
    
    We are in control of our salvation
    "work out our own salvation with fear and trembling" (cf. Philippians 2:12)
    
    
    Seeds that fell away
    Luke 8:13 - seed on rocky soil. Not people who were already saved, but false converts. no previous temptation Fall away = depart, withdraw, not lost salvation.
    
    1 John 2:19 Those that don't remain with christ were never really of them.
    Titus 1:16 and James 2:14 both conclude that many people "say" that they know God, but deny Him by their lifestyle
    
    
    
    
    2 Peter on Christians falling away
    
    2 Peter 2:20-22 escape world then entangle again.
    2 Peter 2:20: For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
    
    
    You can be tempted and lead to death. This is writing to other Christians or "brothers".
    James 1:14-16 “but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. Don't be deceived, my dear brothers”.
    
    
    
    
    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal." John 12:24, 25.
    • "But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" Hebrews 3:13,14.
    And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" 1 Peter 4:17, 18.
    • "For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:21,22.
    
    
    
    
    Matt 6:19-24 - you can't serve 2 masters money and God. So, if a Christian turns towards money and posessions then he will hate God and be filled with darkeness.
    
    
    
    
  • 1 TIMOTHY 4: 1 - 3
    1. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that, in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils,
    2. Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron,
    3. Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving by them who believe and know the truth.
    
    FACTS :
    Vs. 1 - "some shall depart from the faith", how can someone depart from the faith if they were not saved to start with? What are the implications of departing from the faith?
    Vs. 2 - They have their "conscience seared", they depart from the truth they knew and follow the deceit.
    NOTE: If they depart from the "faith" then they have no part of it, which only leaves the alternative.
    
    Matt 7:22-27
    Hard to do miracles or prophesy , signs, wonders and not be christian. So this person must have been a Christian.
    miracles byt never knew could say never had it
    Also Wise and foolish builders
    Built a house - so they were Christians. But bad builders it caved in.
    
    -- Compare with 1 Cor 3:9-15
    
    
    
    If you destory Gods' tempe then you will be destoryed
    1 Corinthians 3:16-17
    
    
    Matt 24:36-57 - be alert. for the coming of the son. ANd Luke 12:45
    42 “Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43 But [af]be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be [ag]broken into.
    44 For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will. 45 “Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his [ah]master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time?
    46 Blessed is that slave whom his [ai]master finds so doing when he comes. 47 Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But if that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My [aj]master [ak]is not coming for a long time,’
    49 and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards; 50 the [al]master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know,
    51 and will [am]cut him in pieces and [an]assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    
    
    Matt 25:1-13 - Parable of 10 virgins.
    13 Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.
    parable of Virgins
    They are all going to meet the bridegroom, the lost will not be doing so.
    Vs. 2 - They are called "foolish" but never said not to be virgins
    Vs. 7 - Again they "all" go out to meet the bridegroom. NOTICE; in vs. 7-8 that they "ALL" trimmed their lamps, and that even the foolish virgin's lamps were lit. They said that they "went out", which is impossible if they were not lit to start with! We know that the "lamp", or "light" represents our witness according to Matt. 5: 14-16.
    Vs. 8 - They will realize as with all Christians that are just going through the motions that they are not prepared to meet the Lord.
    
    
    
  • Heb 10:26-39
    6 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.
    28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
    29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?
    30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
    32 But remember the former days, [i]when, after being enlightened, you endured a great conflict of sufferings, 33 partly by being made a public spectacle through reproaches and tribulations, and partly by becoming sharers with those who were so treated.
    34 For you showed sympathy to the prisoners and accepted joyfully the seizure of your property, knowing that you have for yourselves a better possession and a lasting one. 35 Therefore, do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward.
    36 For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God, you may receive [j]what was promised.
    37 For yet in a very little while,
    He who is coming will come, and will not delay.
    38 But My righteous one shall live by faith;
    And if he shrinks back, My soul has no pleasure in him.
    39 But [k]we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the [l]preserving of the soul.
    
    
    In Vs.26, the writer is including himself in the verse "we", not speaking to lost.
    In Vs.29, this person was "sanctified by the blood", not speaking to the lost.
    In Vs.30, the Lord is judging who? "His People", not speaking to the lost.
    
    I also want to give you some Scriptures that deal with what constitutes a "knowledge of the truth" as indicated in Vs.26; John 8:32, 1Timothy 2:4, & 4:3, 2Timothy 2:25, Titus 1:1, 1John 2:21, and 2John 1,
    
    
    
  • God is Just also and will not allow you to choose sin and Quench the Spirit (1Thess. 5:19), and still enter heaven.
    
    
  • By the verses below you can see that a murderer, idolater, fornicator, etc. will not enter the kingdom of God.
    So if someone was at one time in a saved relationship with God and then turned their back on God by going back to their old ways, they will not enter the kingdom of God. Plain and simple
    . It doesn't mean they can not return to God, but if they remain unfaithful to God and go back to their old sins and never repent, they will be lost.
    "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." Gal 5:19-21. I don't see any eternal security here.
    
    
  • Hebrews 6:4-8
    4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
    6 and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, [d]since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
    7 For ground that drinks the rain which often [e]falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8 but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close [f]to being cursed, and [g]it ends up being burned.
    Hebrews "for it is impossible"
    Vs. 4 - What does it mean that they were "enlightened"? I believe the answer to that is in the rest of the verse. They have "tasted of the heavenly gift", what gift could that be? SALVATION!! The proof of that is in the next statement, they "were made partakers of the Holy Spirit", A lost person cannot partake of the Holy Spirit, you receive the Spirit ( become a partaker) when you are saved ( Ephesians 1:13).
    Vs. 5 - They have "tasted" the Word, and the "powers", can a lost person know what it is to "taste or partake" of the Word? Can a lost person know the "powers" of the Spirit?
    Vs. 6 - "If they shall fall away", Fall away from what? How can they fall away if they are not saved to start with? "Renew them again unto repentance", it is clear that they have already repented according to this statement; Isn’t repentance part of the Salvation process? Why would they need to repent again if they were never saved to start with? "Crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh", how could this happen to a lost person? Jesus is crucified for our sins, so does it make sense that a lost person could not repent and accept the crucifixion of Christ? "And put him to open shame", How could a lost person be responsible for putting Jesus to open shame? They are not a representative of Him, does it make sense that they could put Him to shame and not belong to Him? It is clear by looking at the preceding chapter and verses 11-14, that Paul is not talking to the lost, but to immature Christians that were in danger of falling into this category.
    
    
    
    • --- Those who were partakers yet fall away cannot renew repentance. - does not need to be renewed?
      
      

• We must examine ourselves
  
  1 CORINTHIANS 11: 28 - 32
  28. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
  29. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.
  30. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
  31. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
  32. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
  
  FACTS :
  Vs. 28 - Why would there be a need to "examine" oneself, if there were no chance to lose your salvation?
  Vs. 29 - There is no question that Paul is addressing Christian brothers, and he states that they could bring "damnation" upon themselves. How can that be possible?
  Vs. 32 - This verse clearly states that the Lord "chastens" us so that "we should not be condemned with the world", where does it say in that verse that we cannot be condemned with the world?
  
  
  2 Corinthians 13:5, "Examine yourself as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?"
  
  
  
  
  

• Unforgivable Sin
  
  Matt 6:14-15
  14 For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive [i]others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions
  
  
  
  Matt 12:31-32 - unforgivable sin
  “Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32 Whoever [ab]speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever [ac]speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
  
  
  
  

• People who were saved
  
  To the people who would say that I really wasn’t saved when I was young I just point them back to John 3:16. I did believe in the salvation of Jesus
  
  Also, most people that believe in once saved always saved say, "well that person was never saved in the first place." Well, only God knows that, only God can see their heart, and who are we to judge and say, "that person was never saved in the first place?"
  
  
  
  --- A response --- All it takes for someone to be saved. So it they "believed" then they were saved.
  John 14:6;
  6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
  
  Rom. 10:9–10
  If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, [f]resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, [g]resulting in salvation.
  
  
  
  
  
  

• Free Will
  
  God will not take away your free will. You still have the power to exercise it to leave Christ.
  
  

• If we stop loving then we are no longer saved
  1 John 4:8
  8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
  
  

• Salvation is Conditional
  • "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." 1 John 1:7.
  • "If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father." 1 John 2:24.
  • "If any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him." Hebrews 10:38.
  • "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch." John 15:6.
  • "If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death." John 8:51.
  • "If thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." Romans 11:22.
  • "If ye do these things, ye shall never fall." 2 Peter 1:10.
  • "For we are made partakers of Christ, If we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end." Hebrews 3:14.
  • "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: If we deny him, he also will deny us." 2 Timothy 2:12.
  • "For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins." Hebrews 10:26.
  • "If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." 1 John 2:15.
  • "Ye are my friends, If ye do whatsoever I command you." John 15:14.
  • "If ye live after the flesh, ye shall die." Romans 8:13.
  
  Matt 22:1-14
  "Like the Kindgom of God". So man at end was in the Kindgom of God. He made it in the Kingdom and then was kicked out afterwards.
  Jews invited first and then the gentieles. So are all Jews condemmed then??
  
  "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." Revelation 3:11.
  • "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:19.
  • "Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:4.
  
  • "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works: or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Revelation 2:5.
  Did you notice in Revelation 3:5 that unless you are an overcomer, Jesus will blot your name out of the book of life. The book of life contains the names of all who have ever entered the service of God. Jesus bade His disciples, "Rejoice, because your names are written in heaven."
  Luke 10:20. Paul speaks of his faithful fellow workers, "Whose names are in the book of life." Phil. 4:3. Also notice in Revelation 17:8 that our names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, as many people falsely believe. "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." Revelation 17:8.
  In verse 12, the wayside hearers did not have a chance to "believe and be saved," but in the next verse the stony ground hearers do "for a while believe." What kind of "believing" is this? According to verse 12, it is the kind that saves. So the ones who believed for a while were saved for a while, but in time of temptation they fell away. Eventually, of course, they were lost along with all the others, except the fruit-bearers. Here is an unequivocal teaching of our Lord that people can have a saving faith for a while, and yet lose it and be lost.
  Hebrews 10:38, "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him."
  Ezekiel 33:13, "When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it." The principle is repeated in verse 18, "When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby."
  Matthew 18:21-35, and revolves around the forgiveness of God. A certain king responded to the pleas of his servant and forgave him a large debt. That servant went out and found a fellow servant who owed him a small amount and showed no mercy, throwing him in prison because he could not pay. When the king heard what had happened, he rescinded his cancellation of the large debt and had his servant thrown to the tormentors till he paid in full.
  No one can deny the obvious teaching of this parable. Even though God graciously forgives those who apply for it, that forgiveness is not without conditions for the future. We can lose that forgiveness by being unmerciful to others
  
  
  
  

• Being Saved Again (2nd time around)
  "Return to me, and I will return to you," says the Lord (Micah 3:7)
  
  

• If I am driving in my car, a passenger asks me a question, and I lie to that person, and then we get hit by a bus before I have a chance to take advantage of 1 John 19, am I going to Hell for that lie?
  
  

• IT IS EASY TO LOSE YOUR SALVATION:
  
  
  • Nothing could be farther from the truth, in fact I believe it is a process that takes time, that only God knows when that line is crossed. This is a view that Eternal Security believer’s invented to make their view more credible
    
    
    

• IT IS A WORKS BASED SALVATION
  
  
  • This is again the farthest thing from the truth. Salvation is solely based on a person’s Belief in the finished work of the cross, Repentance for sins, and acceptance of Christ to come and rule and reign in their heart. Obeying the commands of the infallible Word of God from that point on to the best of your ability follows conversion. Works are the product of Obedience to God’s directives. Again, this is another tactic by Eternal Security believers to make their view credible. It is a matter of not being obedient, not how many works are evident. If a person is not Obedient there will not be any works, that is a pretty simple deduction.
    
    I would like to take this time to explain what I consider to be the dangers of both views. The Eternal Security view is dangerous in the main aspect that it gives the false impression that a Christian can do whatever they want without fear of any retribution. The only retribution they consider is that there will be no rewards when they get to heaven. Is that really retribution? Is that any deterrent to living any way they please? The danger I believe in this view, not only that it is not Biblical, but that it gives the believer a sense (whether intended or not) that they have a license to sin.
    
    The dangers of the belief in losing your salvation are; the thought that one sin and you are lost and repent and you are saved again. Salvation should never be based on fear, but on the respect and reverence of a Just God. God does not want us to serve Him out of fear, but out of Love, and Obedience. God does not want "robots" either that is why our choice is never taken away to "Obey or not". As mentioned before, the fact of losing one’s salvation is not a simple thing, and should not be treated lightly. My contention has always been and always will be that if you teach Christians to live for God with all their heart and the best they can on a daily basis; then neither side of this conflict becomes an issue.
    
    
    
    

• Matthew 5:19 - still in kingdom of heaven after sinned. And murdured!!!
  19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
  
  
  

• Joshua 24:15 "choose this day whom you will serve"